[olug] Centurylink "Gigabit" my ass....

Justin Reiners justin at hotlinesinc.com
Sat Jun 21 21:33:04 CDT 2014

Aric, I am more in tuned to thinking the users with the lower plans are
more taken advantage of, I have seen my ultimate internet throttled when I
was in residential. Not sure a good way to tell from my end, but traffic
can be easily shaped per vlan, which is what I assume the do. Not a
completely separate network, This way they can still meet the SLA I pay
dearly for.

My line is used for business purposes mostly, and is covered by my
employer. All of our Cox business Internet get very fast support as well,
with a tech here within 2 hours if need be. It could be based on
neighbourhood as well, mine was bad (approx. 90th and 370). I run servers
here, on server hardware. The latency went down a bit to my server rack as
well after switching everything to business, which leads me to believe
there is less traffic on the VLAN they placed me on.

If your internet is working out for you, then by all means, that is great.
I do not want ports blocked, I run DNS, GIT, Lamp stacks, Nagios, etc. as
well as one of my companies offsite backups. and telling my boss, in an
emergency that the backups have not been working for the last x days due to
network issues is unacceptable to save a buck.

Also, off-site home users, who have a sip phone provided by us have had
latency and jitter issues, that were taken care of by picking up the tab,
and getting them the same internet they had before with cox, but small
business class.

On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Aric Aasgaard <aric at omahax.com> wrote:

> All I know is that my home 150x20 is superior in every way that I have
> measured to the 50x10 I have at work.
> I rarely test at less than 170x22 and have never gotten less than 150x20.
> It seems everyone has satellite dishes so maybe my Cox coax node isn't
> heavily used.
> I suspect the different DOCSIS 3.0 channel thing for business is bullshit
> but I don't know an easy way to test it with what I have.
> I assumed business internet was just like business electricity or water or
> gas, it isn't really better they just charge businesses more for it because
> they can.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of
> Dan
> Linder
> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:10 AM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] Centurylink "Gigabit" my ass....
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
> wrote:
> > Sometimes I feel self conscious about making my neighbours internet
> slow...
> > I remember when I got my ultimate, before I got business class, I had
> > constant issues with bandwidth, had a bucket truck outside 4 days a week.
> > They had to portion off more bandwidth for my neighbourhood, but it
> > was never quite right,
> >
> The way it was explained to me is that there are multiple "channels" (or
> frequencies or whatever) that they use, one for home Internet users, one
> for
> business class, and others serve digital telephone, digital TV, etc.
> In that case, you shouldn't feel self conscious because your use is having
> zero impact on their channel capacity.
> When I had Cox business class at home, I couldn't afford the same high-end
> tier as the "home tier" I left it for, but in my gut I feel that the speeds
> were more consistent and not as "laggy" as I experienced on the home side.
> I'll take the opinion opposite Aric when he said:
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Aric Aasgaard <aric at omahax.com> wrote:
> > IMO it makes more sense to get the cheaper higher speed home account
> > and spend a fraction of the difference on a Verizon wireless 4G
> > hotspot for redundancy purposes.
> I never had a consistent problem with redundancy or outages.  Yes, there
> were the occasional outages (the time the back-hoe took out part of the
> fiber line feeding our area, and another time when the neighbors house down
> the street got hit with lightning and the ground path must have been
> through
> their coax cable into the Cox equipment on our block).  But the few times I
> did call with an issue that was impacting home and business users, my
> business internet was back up sooner than my neighbors home internet.
> Just my $0.02 worth...
> Dan
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