[olug] Disappointment and a question ...

Jay Bendon jaybocc2 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 7 05:07:01 UTC 2014

honestly if going for obscure or cutting edge hardware setups you really
need to stick to ubuntu or fedora with the biggest userbase and fastest
release cycle in order to have good support.

and maybe try a HTPC distro. which is usually backed by mint or ubuntu.

Dump unity and install cinnamon or kde or xfce, whatever.  its linux you
have the freedom.


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:51 PM, unfy <olug at unfy.org> wrote:

> Ooops, misconfigured my main mail server ... no wonder it didn't seem like
> I was getting any responses (rolls eyes).
> Anyhoo....
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> I do appreciate the responses (as read via olug web interface to the ML
> heh).
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> Someone mentioned OSX.  I actually do happen to like OSX hehehehe. I've
> tried to turn my nforce 630i into a hackintosh a few times but have
> generally failed.  Can get OSX running in vmware just fine, though :).  My
> iMac has some faulty hardware in it that I need to fix.....
> ---------------
> Glowing reviews of recent ubuntu's:
> Many of my gripes came from ubuntu, actually.  Some version that had a
> 'dock' going down the left side of the screen.  It seemed like it only
> exposed maybe 7 things to you, and to run stuff you had to do the windows 8
> style 'search for it!' instead of a list / menu / icon group / etc.  Which
> is a bit silly under linux given everything has weird names.  Used whatever
> ubuntu app store thing there was, coworker installed something he needed.
>  It installed the icon on the dock.  he clicks on it, nothing happens.
> repeat ad infinium for clicking on it.  turns out - it's crashing during
> startup but there's no feed back saying so.  Trying to find a
> hardware-esque control panel was difficult.  Trying to deal with package
> management (what is installed? what can i install from the dvd/repos ? etc)
> was also difficult to dig up.  Why package management stuff ? Because I was
> wanting to install some base level stuff that wouldn't be in the 'app
> store'.
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> Re: older hardware etc
> Coworker has hit it before - he has an older nvidia graphics thing - but
> the current distro of whatever he was attempting to run (possibly ubuntu) -
> didn't have the older nvidia proprietary drivers that supported his card
> exposed.  The distro folks basically said 'its too old, we dont care'.
>  Which I do understand to some extent. Can't continue to support legacy
> stuff forever.
> An easy fun thing would be flash for, say, youtube.  Gotta have sse2/3 or
> something... or else it simply will NOT work.  But that's flash....... but
> given the ubiquity of say youtube - it's a valid complaint.
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> In whole hearted seriousness - it was a complete train wreck trying to use
> the three or so distros he was trying.  Would have had better luck with
> some fvwm95 based distro.
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> Over the weekend, while trying to get my nforce 630i based system to
> cooperate (read: hdmi audio) ... i tried out Knoppix 7.2.0 ... which didn't
> boot fully.  Just got to a given point and did nothing but hit the CD
> gently for about an hour.  Sigh.
> Then gave Porteus 3.0 / KDE a try.  That wasn't half bad at all. Didn't
> get HDMI audio to work (sigh, i'll prolly have to hack alsa again), but as
> a live distro - I was actually somewhat content with it.
> I think I'm gonna relegate the nforce 630i system to the trash can in a
> couple weeks (or sell it, whatever).  It's pissing me off too much.  Win7
> 32/64 won't get hdmi audio to work.  Win XP, which I *did* have hdmi audio
> working under doesn't seem to want to work now.  I'll try one more thing
> before just giving up and throwing ubuntu on it as a case study for 'wtf
> guys' heh.
> -Will
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