[olug] [ot] not sure on the details

Jason N dashrender at cox.net
Thu Dec 2 18:13:06 UTC 2010

Actually with Auto rental, I'm pretty sure if you don't buy the insurance coverage from the rental company, you are responsible for any damage beyond normal wear and tear.  For example, if you get a door ding, they might not hit you up for it, but if the motor blows, you will certainly be held responsible, and in most cases your insurance would cover it after you cover your deductable.

A quick call to avis will confirm this.

---- Dan Linder <dan at linder.org> wrote: 
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:21, Jason Zeisler <superztnt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. I think if I own it I can do what I want. If they want to maintain
> ownership and rent/lease them. Does anyone know what their legal standing
> is
> on this? If I remember right they tried the same thing with the original
> Xbox and were going after people putting in mod chips back then too, and
> these guys weren't performing a service. They were modding their own
> systems.

If they want to retain all post-sale rights to the hardware (i.e. a rental),
then why do I have to pay when my XBox gets the red-ring-of-death?

Change the item in question to a car; either a rental from
Avis/National/Dollar/etc, or purchased from Ford/Honda/Toyota/Chrysler.
 * If the engine explodes while I'm driving the rental (not hot-rodding,
etc), they have to repair it, not me.
 * If it's a purchased car, then the warranty period kicks in and I or they
pay depending on the time-frame.
 * If I've done serious and non-reversible modifications, then I'm totally
on the hook for the cost.

So, once past the 90-day Microsoft warranty, I pay for the RRoD repair,
correct?  (I'm not an XBox owner.)  I know if my computer CPU burns up on
day 91 of the 90-day warranty, I have to buy another $300 CPU since I "own"
the computer.  Why don't I "own" the XBox?

Am I missing something?


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