[olug] [ot] not sure on the details

Dan Linder dan at linder.org
Thu Dec 2 18:09:19 UTC 2010

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:21, Jason Zeisler <superztnt at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree. I think if I own it I can do what I want. If they want to maintain
> ownership and rent/lease them. Does anyone know what their legal standing
> is
> on this? If I remember right they tried the same thing with the original
> Xbox and were going after people putting in mod chips back then too, and
> these guys weren't performing a service. They were modding their own
> systems.

If they want to retain all post-sale rights to the hardware (i.e. a rental),
then why do I have to pay when my XBox gets the red-ring-of-death?

Change the item in question to a car; either a rental from
Avis/National/Dollar/etc, or purchased from Ford/Honda/Toyota/Chrysler.
 * If the engine explodes while I'm driving the rental (not hot-rodding,
etc), they have to repair it, not me.
 * If it's a purchased car, then the warranty period kicks in and I or they
pay depending on the time-frame.
 * If I've done serious and non-reversible modifications, then I'm totally
on the hook for the cost.

So, once past the 90-day Microsoft warranty, I pay for the RRoD repair,
correct?  (I'm not an XBox owner.)  I know if my computer CPU burns up on
day 91 of the 90-day warranty, I have to buy another $300 CPU since I "own"
the computer.  Why don't I "own" the XBox?

Am I missing something?


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