[olug] Tesla PowerWall for server room battery backup

[Rob Townley]

A certified Tesla installer from out-of-state replied back that Tesla no
longer allows their powerwall to be used in 3phase 208v power systems like
ours and most businesses.  It is allowed in Australia and other places but
not the USA.

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 3:35 PM Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC <
justin at reiners.io> wrote:

> BTW just confirmed phones were pretty much down across the country for a
> while on /r/sysadmin.
>
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 3:22 PM Justin Reiners <justin at hotlinesinc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ours were stuck on the slow boat for a few months as well, it was
>> horrible.
>>
>> Let me see where I ordered from, our recycler is ASS in CB American
>> Salvage and Surplus or whatever, I'll let you know where we get the
>> batteries when I get a callback.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:54 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, please send the UPS contact.  We have been in need of batteries for
>>> a
>>> while, but somehow are on the slowboat.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:47 PM Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC <
>>> justin at reiners.io> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Not saying a *new* liebert :) We can't buy new anything. If we could
>>> pay
>>> > for used cloud we would :)
>>> >
>>> > We spent about $4000 for batteries direct from manufacturer, and
>>> Liebert
>>> > has no problem working on it, they actually had to come in and config
>>> the
>>> > software for us when we swapped batteries, they guy that installed
>>> > batteries 10 years ago forgot to set the pack voltage correctly. I've
>>> got a
>>> > contact in CB that might be able to find a huge UPS used if you are
>>> > interested.
>>> >
>>> > Cox phones are down? Yikes, Flowroute is working great :) We're getting
>>> > ready to leave Cox Fiber, they are awfully proud of it pricewise.
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 2:40 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>  We have a big empty roof that just might have solar cells someday.
>>> >>
>>> >> There are definitely known problems and the unknown with Tesla.  For
>>> one,
>>> >> I am not liking any dependency on the cloud.  From what i understand,
>>> if
>>> >> the internet drops, there is a local embedded webpage that one could
>>> >> manually use to give details on remaining power.  Does not appear the
>>> app
>>> >> would automatically start using WiFi to get to that local webpage,
>>> >> however.   I doubt even a buzzer alarm goes off when utility power
>>> dies.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tesla batteries have a built-in ten year warranty.  Liebert would
>>> charge
>>> >> about six thousand for about half that time.
>>> >>
>>> >> Since I am not currently a Tesla owner, the Tesla forums
>>> >> <https://forums.tesla.com/> only allow me to post replies to existing
>>> >> questions, not initiate a new one.
>>> >>
>>> >> p.s. COX Telephone is down city wide+.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:57 PM Justin Reiners <
>>> justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Don't get me wrong, I love love love Tesla, EV's, and Lithium, I'd
>>> just
>>> >> > hate to have you still need a UPS to safely shut down systems when
>>> the
>>> >> > power went out, or reinvent the wheel.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:54 PM Justin Reiners <
>>> justin at hotlinesinc.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Lack of shutdown notifications and the price would be a factor in
>>> me
>>> >> >> looking for another device, We're using a 10KVA and 15KVA older
>>> >> Lieberts
>>> >> >> for our building. I really like them, we got them used from a
>>> recycler
>>> >> a
>>> >> >> few years ago, and just replaced the batteries recently in the
>>> 10KVA
>>> >> after
>>> >> >> 10 years, it still had half hour backup power.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 1:17 PM Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Has anyone researched using Tesla PowerWalls in place of lead acid
>>> >> >>> battery
>>> >> >>> backup for server room computers?   A single powerwall could
>>> provide
>>> >> 5kW
>>> >> >>> continuous power.   Price and performance seem comparable to lead
>>> >> acid.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Tesla.com/powerwall
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Tesla.com/powerpack is the more industrial grade system, but
>>> starts at
>>> >> >>> 50kVA which is much more than we need.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Unfortunately, there are no installers in Omaha.
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>>> >
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>>> > Justin Reiners
>>> > Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC
>>> > I'm happy to be your local Omaha distributor for 3CX and SimpleHelp!
>>> > Contact me for info.
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> Justin Reiners
> Reiners Cloud Consulting LLC
> I'm happy to be your local Omaha distributor for 3CX and SimpleHelp!
> Contact me for info.
>