[olug] NAS

Hurley, Rod RHurley at TENASKA.com
Wed Jul 3 13:09:41 UTC 2013


Struggled with MPIO drivers with iSCSI when I had one.  

Rod

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:05 AM, "Sheldon, Roger W" <Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com> wrote:

> Glad to hear someone that has a Synology and is happy with it. Have you done any firmware or updates on it? Wondering how the support is with keeping up with security holes in the apps or NAS itself.
> 
> 
> Roger Sheldon
> Storage Engineer
> wk 402.777.7901
> cell 402.889.2585
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 PM
> To: Omaha Linux User Group
> Subject: Re: [olug] NAS
> 
> I've got a synology DS4110j - 4 bay w/  ~6TB of storage and an uptime of
> 674 days.  I've been quite happy with it.  Can expand it upto 12TB
> 
> -jeff
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:53 PM, <webtrekker at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hey Rog,
>> I've been using a 4-bzay QNap box for several years to host all of my
>> virtual images, pics, ISOs, etc. and have been very happy with it.
>> The ability to install other 3rd-party apps is also kinda handy, but
>> haven't explored that very far.  If ya want to come over some time
>> I'll give ya a quick demo.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Patrick
>> 
>> ---- "Sheldon wrote:
>>> Thx for link I will have to ck that out. Yeh I thot bout Freenas but
>> need to come up with a presentable, low power/noise case. Not to
>> mention RAID controller, backplane etc that would all fit. I think it
>> would be great if there was a DIY kit that would fit the bill.
>>> Checked out Buffalo but closest I found was a 6 bay TeraStation(tm)
>>> 5600
>> for just over $1000. I feel that QNAP & Synology has better package
>> and prices still. But you bring up good point... wonder if I can
>> purchase them w/out disk. I was planning on purchasing disks separately.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Roger Sheldon
>>> Storage Engineer
>>> wk 402.777.7901
>>> cell 402.889.2585
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On Behalf
>>> Of
>> Ben Watson
>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:35 PM
>>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>>> Subject: Re: [olug] NAS
>>> 
>>> There is a pretty good comparison chart/tool here:
>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-charts/view.  The site keeps
>>> up
>> with new products and tests, reviews, and rates them based on a number
>> of factors.  Personally I've had a reliable experience (so long as
>> OPPD is providing power) with my home brew FreeNAS-based solution.
>> Just a desktop case, bootable compact flash card, and a bunch of
>> drives attached to a RAID controller.  Been running pretty rock solid
>> for 5 years now (again so long as it has power).
>>> 
>>> IMHO, Buffalotech seems to have some of the best price per TB
>>> offerings
>> out there, with decent features (e.g. DLNA, iTunes, iSCSI target, etc.).
>>> Additionally, when looking at the prices, these are diskful systems
>>> as
>> apposed to BYOD, so the price is the price and ready out of the box
>> vice having to also buy a bunch of drives (though I see these are
>> coming down in price these days).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've had good luck with readyNAS and they just came out with new
>>>> devices, personally I'm looking at the 6bay
>>>> 
>>>> Together We Win!
>>>> --
>>>> Chad - I AM MONAVIE
>>>> Do You Know Your Life Score? <http://choman.mymonavie.com>
>>>> Creating A More Meaningful Life
>>>> 
>>>> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "I know, I'll
>>>> use Windows."
>>>> Now they have two problems.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Sheldon, Roger W <
>>>> Roger.Sheldon at firstdata.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The 16TB would definitely eventually get filled as I will be
>>>>> shooting 1080p stuff and additional video packages that will be
>>>>> ISO'd. Guessing
>>>> but
>>>>> right now about 12TB would be enough space. You mentioned EMC...
>>>>> egads gotta cough up more $$ and get sucky support.
>>>>> Desktop implementation is what I'm looking at. Is there a DIY
>>>>> with a decent case?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Sheldon
>>>>> Storage Engineer
>>>>> wk 402.777.7901
>>>>> cell 402.889.2585
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Hurley, Rod
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:21 AM
>>>>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [olug] NAS
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Fun with iSCSI".  I loved that book.  :o)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Iomega (apparently now called Lenovo/EMC) has some nice small
>>>>> biz class NAS stuff (px4-300d) that fully supports iSCSI.  Most
>>>>> only scale to about 16TB since they are small desktop boxes.  Of
>>>>> course since EMC has their hands in it, you can buy the big NAS
>>>>> too, for
>> big prices.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Dell 2950 approach would work too, I've done that as well,
>>>>> but
>>>> pricier
>>>>> in the long run than a desktop NAS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Sheldon, Roger W
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:08 AM
>>>>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [olug] NAS
>>>>> 
>>>>> Supports both nfs/cifs. Not looking to scale upwards but
>>>>> definitely like that option. Would not be running any high
>>>>> performance apps or
>> DB's.
>>>>> Mounting and steaming ISO's and possibly having some fun with iscsi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Sheldon
>>>>> Storage Engineer
>>>>> wk 402.777.7901
>>>>> cell 402.889.2585
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Hurley, Rod
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 11:03 AM
>>>>> To: Omaha Linux User Group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [olug] NAS
>>>>> 
>>>>> NFS and CIFS both or just NFS?  I see you might be considering
>>>>> Server
>>>> 2012
>>>>> which also offers ReFS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you looking to scale to 60-70 TB soon, or just a ways down
>>>>> the
>> road?
>>>>> It sounds like you just want to do dump some files on it,
>>>>> (compared to running high performance apps/db's) is this correct?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rod Hurley
>>>>> Sr. Data Storage Administrator
>>>>> Tenaska, Inc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: olug-bounces at olug.org [mailto:olug-bounces at olug.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Sheldon, Roger W
>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 10:53 AM
>>>>> To: olug at olug.org
>>>>> Subject: [olug] NAS
>>>>> 
>>>>> Looking to purchase NAS for SOHO use. Any recommends? Intended
>>>>> use for home, storing a lot of ISO's I will be creating from OEM
>>>>> disks I
>>>> purchased.
>>>>> Mounting an ISO and reading them is faster than CD's/DVD'S and
>>>>> this helps greatly when rendering. Just need lota space. Also
>>>>> would be the normal everyday stuff like images, music, media streaming etc.
>>>>> I'm looking at
>>>> the
>>>>> models below. From what I can gather Synology has a good
>>>>> implementation that reviews indicate as being rock solid and
>>>>> great applications for
>>>> SOHO.
>>>>> Synology also supports expansion units, VMware, vSphere 5,
>>>>> Citrix and Windows Server 2012 (whatever the heck that is). Not
>>>>> so sure about their Hybrid RAID as it kinds sounds like an
>>>>> offshoot of DROBO's version or
>>>> RAID.
>>>>> I think it comes with 3yr or 5yr warranty. QNAP was the other
>>>>> NAS I was looking at as they seem to have good NAS setup as well
>>>>> as applications. I think QNAP has more modes when it comes
>>>>> configuring for network link aggregation. Synology also supports link a
>>>>>   ggrega
>>>>>   ti  on as well and comes with two or four Gigabit connections
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Synology DS1812+ (8 Bay ) with expansion units can scale to 72TB
>>>>> Synology
>>>>> DS1512+ (5 Bay) with expansion units can scale to 60TB
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Sheldon
>>>>> Storage Engineer
>>>>> wk 402.777.7901
>>>>> cell 402.889.2585
>>>>> 
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