[olug] The microcosm that says so much

Kevin sharpestmarble at gmail.com
Mon Mar 8 20:47:39 UTC 2010

But as long as I can do task X just as quickly, I don't care what
order the buttons are in. If it's Joe User's only operating system(or
computer), he doesn't have to do any "OK, I'm on this OS, now I do it
this way" and it doesn't bug him. He just wants it to do its job,
which is to get out of the way and let him get his work done.

"KDE is for people who like to tweak this and adjust that and
configure the other thing until it fits them like a glove, while Gnome
is for people who just want it to work so they can get on with their
job." - Unknown

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 09:41, T. J. Brumfield <enderandrew at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ubuntu announced their next LTS release will feature a new theme.
> http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/ubuntu-dumps-the-brown-introduces-new-theme.ars
> Personally, I still can't stand the stock icons most Gnome desktops
> use. Ick. Look at the Windows 7, Mac OS X, or KDE Oxygen icons for
> comparison.
> But what has most people up in arms is the order of buttons on the
> window decoration. People are screaming this is just copying OS X.
> (For the record, I have no qualms copying good design, which is why I
> urged Kwin to adopt the Aero Snap feature, which they eventually did).
> However, all the hate and vitrol isn't necessary. As someone who very
> rarely uses Gnome, it never occured to me that you can't simply
> configure the window decoration buttons how you want.
> http://blog.nixternal.com/2010.03.05/let-me-tell-you-where-to-put-the-buttons/
> In KDE, you can configure the window decorations to behave exactly how you want.
> Then again, Gnome doesn't even ship with a Font Installer. I know the
> goal is to have sane defaults, but at some point, shouldn't a user be
> empowered to customize their desktop how they want? Reading the Gnome
> HIG, I see that the Gnome developers feel users are stupid and should
> not be afforded choice. Am I crazy to think I shouldn't be patronized
> by my desktop?
> If you want to see the difference between Gnome and KDE, I can think
> of no better example than this. With Gnome, you get what you get, and
> you better like it. If you don't, too bad. In KDE, you can have it
> anyway you want.
> I'm sincerely shocked that the Linux community (who seems to value
> choice) would prefer a desktop environment determined to limit choice.
> -- T. J. Brumfield
> "I'm questioning my education
> Rewind and what does it show?
> Could be, the truth it becomes you
> I'm a seed, wondering why it grows"
> -- Pearl Jam, Education
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