[olug] Vista is AMAZING!!!!

Fri Jul 13 21:02:36 UTC 2007

I really like windows (up to 2003). it takes me less than 2 minutes to
change any setting, and about that long to do anything else i need to do.
however...
i do a lot of in-home computer repair, and i have a new scourge. worse than
spyware, worse than adware, worse than AOL, is vista.

I hate vista

no command line? what the Fk is that all about? am i just missing it?
it's so resource hungry that i have to go into these people's houses and
explain that there is nothing wrong with the computer, it just can't handle
the 200$ you spent on "upgrading" it. people really don't like to hear that.
I must agree that the most dramatic way vista comes pre-screwed is the OEM
additions. It was really bad under XP, it's Fkn rediculous now that vista is
here.

On 7/13/07, Neal R <neal at lists.rauhauser.net> wrote:
>
>
> This is why I don't run Windows ...
>
>
> Aaron Grothe wrote:
> > Hey All,
> >
> > As part of a project I'm starting I need to port a piece of software
> > to a Microsoft Windows Box.  This is also when my second to last
> > e-machine box has decided to go on to the great beyond 4 out of 5
> > dead!
> >
> > I thought about building a box and getting an OEM version of Windows
> > XP.  I haven't bought a box like the normal people do for a while so
> > I decide why not see how far its come in the last couple of years.
> >
> > So I buy a Compaq with the following Specs
> >
> > Dual Core AMD 3800+ CPU
> > 1 Gigabyte of Ram
> > 200 Gig SATA hard Drive
> > Windows Vista Home Premium
> > Nvidia 6150??? GPU
> >
> > This is the most powerful box I have EVER bought.  It is at least
> > twice as powerful as my last workstation.
> >
> > I open the box:
> >
> > o - No install discs, not even the classic system image CDs
> > o - Pretty straightfoward, except for no parallel printer port or
> > serial ports
> >
> > I boot the box
> >
> > o - It asks me to create an account.  It then takes over 10 minutes
> > to "optimize my windows experience".  I rebooted twice because it
> > gave me absolutely no idea what it was doing.
> > o - After cutting my own system image restore discs, which I can only
> > do ONCE I let Norton activation and the system updates fight it out
> > for a while
> > o - With no apps running I'm already up to 780Mb used!!!
> > o - So after a bunch of updates I reboot
> > o - Allow/Deny confirmations for everything are great.  I get asked
> > for about 10 times to setup my machine
> >
> > Now I'm on boot #2
> >
> > o - The time for the box to boot is about 120 seconds, which is
> > amazing - plus 30 seconds to login as a user
> > o - I fire up Internet explorer to discover that Compaq has sold my
> > toolbar space to Yahoo and anybody else who will pay for it
> > o - With the raw amount of adware/spyware/bloatware on this machine.
> > I'm surprised they aren't able to give it away for free
> > o - I decide to uninstall some of the software such as AOL and the
> > like.  Guess what they're not in the program listing.  Ha! Ha! Ha!
> > You can delete the Icon, but the love is always going to be there.
> > Unless you use msiinv to work get real access to the underlying
> > packages if they actually used a package
> > o - To verify something isn't wrong with the box I boot into Knoppix
> > 5.1.1 to make sure everything is Ok.  The machine sings in way it
> > never will again, until I buy my next Vista box and repurpose this
> > one to be my Linux box
> > o - If you're like me and I know I am.  You probably have an html
> > file you have on your desktop with links you hit frequently.  Well
> > know you're going to go to allow/deny every time you hit one, because
> > they are in different zones
> > o - I decide I'd like to be able to print from my Windows box.  I've
> > got a HP 4050 N with a jet direct card.  Everything I have can print
> > from it, the only box I had problems with was XP because it didn't
> > like a real network printer, since it was home edition.  I let Vista
> > search my network for a printer.  I'm pretty excited, it takes about
> > 5 minutes.  Maybe its finding a printer I forgot about :-)  Nope.
> > NaDa.  So I give it the IP and work through a wizard.  It works.
> > Yea!!!  Printing to a network printer in Vista is now as easy as it
> > was in Linux about 3 years ago :-)
> >
> > I can only conclude the following:
> >
> > o - When Vista is the only Microsoft Windows Option for OEMs you will
> > begin to see an adoption of Linux that is higher than ever
> > o - Vista is the single largest step back I've ever seen Microsoft
> > take, largely because you have no choice.  ME was a choice, this
> > really isn't
> > o - If this is Premium I shudder to think what the poor bastards who
> > got Vista basic are going through
> > o - If you have to dual boot, hang onto Windows XP for as long as you
> > can.
> > o - If you use Linux get ready for company, because a whole lot of
> > people are going to be coming our way :-)
> >
> > I'm honestly thinking of seeing if I can get the project running
> > under Wine so I can truly take advantage of this new box.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Aaron
> > 0-0-0
> > "The Journey is the Reward" - Old Zen Buddhist Saying
> >
> >
> >
> >
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