[olug] [Macintosh] Powermac G3, Ubuntu, and OS X

Charles Bird thebirdman at operamail.com
Fri May 19 03:08:32 UTC 2006


I'll be heading to my dads studio next week, i belive he had pre-10.3 he now has newer on a dual G5.
If i find anything out I'll give a shout.





> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nathan D. Rotschafer" <nrotschafer at geniussystems.net>
> To: adam at doubleprime.net, "Omaha Linux User Group" <olug at olug.org>
> Subject: Re: [olug] [Macintosh] Powermac G3, Ubuntu, and OS X
> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:47:30 -0500
> 
> 
> I have an old copy of 10.0 and then a 10.1 update CD that I had when
> I didn't even own a mac.  Now my 3 macs (MacBook Pro, 12" PowerBook
> G4 1 Ghz, iBook 1.3hz[?]) all have 10.4...but that version might be
> too old for you...I didn't care much for OSX before 10.3...
> 
> Nathan D. Rotschafer
> Cell: (402) 216-9270
> email: nrotschafer at geniussystems.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2006, at 6:19 PM, Adam Lassek wrote:
> 
> > It depends on the model. I know certain G3 iMacs support target mode.
> >
> > On 5/18/06, Matt Anderson <manderso at cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
> >> Does the G3 have a DVD player?  As of OS 10.4, I believe regular
> >> consumer copies of OS X Client are only distributed on DVD (according
> >> to Apple Enterprise Support).  If 10.3 fits your needs, you can get
> >> that on CD.
> >>
> >> Slightly newer Macs (as of a fairly early G4 revision) have a
> >> 'firewire target disk mode' which lets another computer use the Mac
> >> as an external hard disk.  I know that the earliest G4 (Yikes!) does
> >> not support this (as I have one).  The G4 Sawtooth model (immediately
> >> following the Yikes! model) does support target disk mode (I have one
> >> of those too).  I don't know if any G3s support that functionality or
> >> not.  If yours does, you could put it into target disk mode, hook it
> >> up to another Mac, and install the operating system.
> >>
> >> Assuming you don't have a DVD player or target disk mode, I'd say
> >> your best options are to either (a) install a DVD player or (b) put a
> >> hard disk into your G3 that had the OS installed on it while it was
> >> in another Mac.  I think a Mac of your G3's vintage will support
> >> 128GB or so of space on an IDE HDD (bigger is fine, but extra
> >> capacity will go unrecognized without third party software) -- this
> >> is assuming hard disk support is the same as on my 2 early G4s.  I
> >> don't know what DVD players are compatible (maybe all IDE DVD
> >> players) -- I haven't installed one.
> >>
> >> If you're going to run 10.4, I don't think you'll be satisfied with
> >> the performance of the machine with only 128MB of RAM.  My personal
> >> feeling is that 512MB is the minimum for acceptable performance (at
> >> least for how I use a Mac -- slowdown due to extensive swapping is
> >> very annoying).  I think my early G4s take PC100 RAM.
> >>
> >> If you pay fees to be an Apple developer, you can download software
> >> from Apple, including the client (and server) operating systems.  The
> >> lowest such fee I believe is $500, and I think the software is
> >> configured to expire after a year.  I don't know what the
> >> installation is like if you obtain the OS in this way.
> >>
> >> A nice resource with information about older Macs is Low End Mac:
> >>
> >>    http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/
> >>
> >> Good luck...
> >>
> >> --
> >>   Matt Anderson
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 18, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Daniel Linder wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 18, 2006 14:23, Phil Brutsche wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> You have a RTU (right to use) for any version of MacOS you like,
> >>>
> >>>> provided it will run on the machine.  Some G3 machines won't OS X
> >>>
> >>>> period, some G3 machines will only run OS X through 10.2 or so.
> >>> You
> >>>
> >>>> might have to check a couple Mac-specific lists to find out which
> >>> will
> >>>
> >>>> and which won't.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>> Since you got the license with the machine, all you need to do is
> >>> find
> >>>
> >>>> someone that will loan you media.  It's not downloadable from
> >>> Apple.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks -- I was thinking that was the case (RTU), but my last in- depth
> >>> exposure to Apples was many years ago.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> So, anyone have an older OS X cd that they would like to loan so  I can
> >>> make an ISO image of it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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