[olug] Internet Access

Nathan D.Rotschafer nrotschafer at geniussystems.net
Wed Dec 15 03:29:19 UTC 2004

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As was previously mentioned...it isn't that you can't get around cox 
not wanting servers.  It is trying to explain to other mail servers why 
you don't have mail on port 25 that it is instead 995 (dunno how you 
might even do this with normal DNS).  Second explaining to users to 
goto http://jlaudio.geniussystems.net:8080 instead of 
http://jlaudio.geniussystems.net is sometimes hard.  And last qwest 
doesn't just "turn the other way" they really don't care if you do it 
and in fact encouraged me on several occasions to use the bandwidth to 
learn and do what I want.  Whereas, Cox could shut you off if they 
wanted to be mean about it...

Nathan D. Rotschafer
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On Dec 14, 2004, at 5:32 PM, Eric Lusk wrote:

> Big bonus for DSL for me: I have 3 CO's in my
> immediate area, and routinely download above my "max"
> capacity of 1.5 Mbps.  I can surf and download a file
> at 1.6Mbps, along with  having mldonkey running in the
> background :)
> Can download a 700MB .iso image for Mandrake Linux in
> 45 minutes or less, depending on the server I'm
> connected to. And of course I'm running my web server
> at the same time. On port 80.
> --- "Robert A. Jacobs" <r.a.jacobs at cox.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2004-12-13 at 23:42, Jake Churchill wrote:
>>> See, it's $40 for Cox and you get 4Mbps download
>> and 512Kbps upload.
>> Technically, you get *up to* 4Mbps download and *up
>> to* 512Kps upload.
>> If the pipe is saturated, you won't get near those
>> values and depending
>> on how many of your neighbors are sharing your pipe
>> *and* what they are
>> doing, you may be getting far less than you think.
>> That's the point
>> Trent made earlier.
>> The other salient point is Nate's:  Cox's AUP states
>> that you can't run
>> any servers...no web servers...no mail servers...no
>> anything.  While you
>> can probably get around it by launching your servers
>> on non-standard
>> ports, Cox is within their rights to kick you off
>> their service if you
>> run servers (the fact that they choose to turn their
>> heads the other way
>> *right now* does not obviate the fact that they can,
>> at any point,
>> choose not to turn their heads).
>> Running servers is typically a non-issue in the DSL
>> world and is the one
>> thing that keeps me interested in this possibility.
>> The fact that it is
>> cheaper is also a bonus.
>> -robert.a.jacobs
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