[olug] Abiword footnotes/Latex plug

Chris Garrity m0ntar3 at cox.net
Sat May 4 00:10:16 UTC 2002


You're right about Miktex and it's mess, puts stuff everywhere --- just 
uninstalled it and installed the one you suggested (works fine, will 
see). Won't be dropping vim for UltraEdit anytime soon :-P

Jeremy Bettis wrote:

>I must disagree with you here, Miktex sucks big time.  Use the win32
>version of web2c tex instead.  The biggest reason for me is that miktex
>doesn't have an up to date version of pdftex and it requires you to have
>a bunch of registry settings.
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>Web2c on the other hand just looks for the tex support files relative to
>the exe file, so all you need to change is the path and it's installed. 
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>It is on CTAN, here is one mirror: (there are others)
>http://www.agh.edu.pl/pub/tex/systems/win32/web2c/current/ 
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>And actually, UltraEdit is a great editor for windows, and it's neither
>vi nor emacs.
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>--
>Jeremy Bettis, Software Development Manager
>HKS Medical Information Systems, Inc.
>jeremyb at hksys.com
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chris Garrity [mailto:m0ntar3 at cox.net]
>>Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 7:02 PM
>>To: olug at olug.org
>>Subject: Re: [olug] Abiword footnotes/Latex plug
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>>For a Ph.D. thesis LaTeX should be a slam-dunk --- you could have the
>>document structure built in 1--2 days and then spend all your time on
>>it's content. I wouldn't even screw with a graphical LaTeX frontend,
>>just get Leslie Lamports LaTeX Guide and you'll LaTeX'ing in 1/2 day.
>>For Linux, use teTeX. For Windows: use MiKTeK. If you wan't to get
>>started in the lest amount of time, install MiKTeK and Gvim on Windows
>>and you be rolling (just learn how to use vim, or emacs, because these
>>are really your only two choices). Knowing vim, or emacs, is an
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>>prereq. (imo) for doing/knowing anything (relative) useful.
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>>http://www.miktex.org
>>http://www.vim.org
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>>Tanya Loughead wrote:
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>>>More on the whole word processor debate:
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>>>I suppose that which word processor one uses is related to the task
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>>one's
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>>>hands.... {I'm writing my Ph.D. dissertation.}
>>>I was immediately attracted to Abi-Word because of its simplicity.
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>(Not
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>>>surprisingly) I come from using Microsoft word, and the AbiWord
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>commands
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>>are
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>>>very similar.  I tried to use StarOffice, but that program is so big,
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>>that
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>>>the possibility for problems and bugs is likewise "big."  (I am still
>>>waiting for feedback from Sun on a major problem that I am having
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>with
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>>>StarOffice.)
>>>SO--
>>>Here's a question to everyone on the list: Given that one may only
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>need
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>>text
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>>>capabilities, which Linux-based word processor do you find to be the
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>>best?
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>>>It seems that everyone is casting votes for LaTeX thus far.... is
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>that
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>>the
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>>>general consensus?
>>>Thanks for the input,
>>>Tanya
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>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Dave Burchell [mailto:burchell at inebraska.com]
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:29 PM
>>>>To: olug at olug.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [olug] Abiword footnotes/Latex plug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I second that endorsement of LaTeX.  Plus, if you are not "geeky"
>>>>enough yet to learn all the LaTeX tricks, pick up LyX
>>>>(http://www.lyx.org), a swell WYSIWYM (what you see is what you
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>mean)
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>>>>word processor that acts as a front end for LaTeX.  It is free and I
>>>>have found it to be easy to use, stable, and full of features (such
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>>>>tables, footnotes, end notes, tables of contents).  And everything
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>you
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>>can
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>>>>do with LaTeX you can do with LyX, because you can include LaTeX
>>>>snipits in
>>>>your LyX document.
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>>>>That said, I like keeping documents in XML rather than LaTeX if they
>>>>are to be exchanged with others and/or you want to publish the
>>>>documents in a variety of formats.  I have an XML version of my
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>resume,
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>>>>for example, and I have a stylesheet that produces a fancy LaTeX
>>>>version of it, another for plain text, and another for HTML.  I can
>>>>update the XML document, type "make", and generate text, HTML, dvi,
>>>>PostScript, and PDF versions, no sweat.
>>>>
>>>>Mike Hostetler says:
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>>>>>>As for me, I'm still just trying to get my word processor on
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>>>>Red Hat up and
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>>>>>>running.  Anyone know if there are footnote and thesaurus plugins
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>>>>>>Abiword yet?  I only heard that they were "on the way."
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>>>>>I think they are to be implemented after tables are . . . so don't
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>>>>>This is a little geeky, too, but LaTeX rocks on things like
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>footnotes,
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>>>>>Works Cited, etc.  The very intial curve is a little steep, but
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>after
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>>>>>that it's pretty easy.  And all Linux distros come with it.  To
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>learn,
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>>I
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>>>>>just did a Google for "Latex tutorial" and read through the first
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>>couple
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>>>>>good luck,
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>>>>>-- mikeh
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