[olug] Theo can bite me. [or "OpenSSH Vulnerability"]

[Chris Garrity]

Ya' But; when you call it "Linux 7.2" when you're talking to people that 
don't know what the they're listening to they go "Wow, 7.2, that's like 
7.2 - 2.4.18 more better that what the other guys are blabbering about." 
And, when you say "Linux" over and over again instead of "RedHat," they 
go "wow 'Linux', you guys are 'proactive'" --- if you go "RedHat" they 
go "duh." Also identifies to tech-folk what version of RH you got, but 
at the same time masks the fact you're building on what's hard to 
decribe as a true "product," and hence might not exist when when RH gets 
bought or decides to change its business model.

Linux-2.4.18 (and it's GNU environment) and up has a way longer life 
expectancy than say RH-7.X and up. But, then again "our vendors don't 
support it" and "rolling our own" ain't cost effective short term. 
Master your destiny, roll your own GNU/Linux.

Brian Wiese wrote:

>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:20:47 -0500 (CDT)
>"Matthew G. Marsh" <mgm at midwestlinux.com> wrote:
>
>|On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Christopher Cashell wrote:
>|
>|> As far as I can tell, the only real reason that Theo didn't release
>this
>|> fix sooner, was so that he could ram his Privilege Separation feature
>in
>|> OpenSSH >= 3.3 down our throats. While I think this is a good feature
>in
>|> the long run, I seriously dislike running a program, especially one
>like
>|> ssh, that was released less than a week ago, on a production server.
>|> Especially when there are known bugs with it. I doubt all of these bugs
>|> have been fixed in OpenSSH 3.4.
>|
>|Yeah - he has ben getting worse lately - probably due to the same envy
>|that RMS seems to display so well... ;-}
>
>I don't think envy is the proper word, perhaps 
>
>=) Ok, RMS, you love him or you hate him I guess is how it goes.
>
>I'm up for calling this the Omaha GNU/Linux Users Group. 
>http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0520.rms.html
>
>It would be more accurate (linux = kernel), which is what we should shoot
>for, but it may also be a bit confusing to some.. oh well, isn't it
>already! ha! ;) -jk
>
>I was actually just engaged in this discussion because everyone I talk to
>at work who has used GNU/Linux says they use/or have tried "Linux 7.2" or
>"Linux 6.2"  :-D  ... too funny! and also Too Sad!!!!  Now if they said
>they use "Linux 2.4.18" I'd pat them on the back!
>
>But he is da man who gave us what we're possibly running right now, a free
>OS.  Torvalds didn't do it himself, RMS started this whole thing with his
>hippie-ish idealistic Free Software Foundation.  I love it.  There's been
>tons of good debate on this in the past, I hope you all get a chance to
>look it up and make an opinion of your own.
>
>kinda the debate:  
>http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0508.rms.html
>his reasonable stance:   http://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html 
>
>Honestly RMS is a brilliant man, and in the end to me, its just about
>giving credit where its due and saying what you mean/meaning what you
>say... words have meaning.  I also respect "hackers" in the true sense.  
>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/hacker.html
>
>ok, enough, im done.
>
>
>  Brian Wiese | bwiese at cotse.com | aim: unolinuxguru
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