[olug] Security

David Walker linux_user at grax.com
Fri Jan 4 23:22:21 UTC 2002


That's why the pros run a demilitarized zone.  Any host on the internet is 
considered a security risk and is not allowed free access to your internal 
network.

Firewall -
	Web server
	Name server
	Mail server
	2nd level firewall -
		The rest of your network
(or a slightly different configuration)
Firewall -
	DMZ Zone
		Web server
		Name server
		Mail server
	The rest of your network Zone
		The rest of your network

Apache has a good security record over the past 4 years so it isn't a big 
security risk but how you configure it and what scripts you run on it could 
be risks.  Straight html files should be rather non-risky.

I don't run sendmail so I can't really assess the risks but considering the 
exploits I've heard about I would be wary.

Since SSH is not intended for anonymous use I suggest moving it to a 5 digit 
port where a scanner looking for it on port 22 isn't going to happen upon it. 
 That way if an exploit is released you have a bit more time to upgrade 
before someone finds that you are running an exploitable version.

I'm not comfortable running win2k on the internet without a firewall in front 
of it.
		
So, using your number system, I'd say 
Apache 	3
SSH		2
Sendmail	1
Win2k		1

On Friday 04 January 2002 04:49 pm, you wrote:
> Wrong Brian....sorry the Brian I was referring to knows what I'm talking
> about...Also I'm glad that this has turned into a decent thread on
> security...what do we think is the risk factor of a computer whose only
> outside access is through SSH...but it still has internal network access
> how big of a risk factor is it to the internal network?  How about if that
> internal network were connected to someone else's private network over a
> VPN...would that person have reason to be concerned...as on the flip side
> the person running the SSH machine would have cause for concern over a
> Win2k Server having access to the internal network and thus his over the
> VPN....aren't they both equally bad security risks or is one worse than the
> other...Then what about running Sendmail, and Apache on a machine hooked
> also into the private network where does this fall?  I mean can we really
> be secure with any external access and where would people rank these risks
> 1-3, 1 being the highest risk and 3 being the lowest...here is what I say: 
> 1) Apache and Sendmail, 2) SSH and 2) Win2k....i say the last two are lower
> because of all the exploits for sendmail...but I think SSH and Win2k are
> equally bad what do you all think?
>
> Thanks,
> Nate Rotschafer
>
>
> From: "Brian Roberson" <roberson at bstc.net>
>
> >Reply-To: olug at bstc.net
> >To: <olug at bstc.net>
> >Subject: Re: [olug] Security
> >Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:15:57 -0600
> >
> >Right! ??!!
> >
> > > night/this morning very well I believe...right Brian?  Just my $.02....
> >
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