[olug] Groupware suggestions - Long

Forrest Dickinson fdickinson at morganhunter.com
Fri Apr 12 14:33:05 UTC 2002

Hi Eric,

At the risk of "going against the grain" in a Linux users group I would
recommend that you go with Exchange 2k it and Lotus Notes are your two only
real options for true groupware(in my opinion).  Where exchange sucks at is
on the SMTP side when it comes to content and spam filtering but you can
always use a Linux box running Sendmail or Postfix as your email gateway and
filter attachments with that.  Development on Lotus Notes/Domino is arguably
easier but the Notes client sucks (in my opinion) its more of a resource hog
than Outlook is and its extremely unintuitive for the end users.  I am the
Sysadmin for a Recruiting Company in Kansas City and we are developing our
entire groupware database on Exchange/Outlook.  In our public folders we
have more than 200,000 contacts with various custom forms depending on the
division.  The speed is fast and stability is good on the server side the
only time I reboot the exchange servers is after I install security updates
(of course on Linux you usually don't have to do that) but my exchange
servers are up for months at a time.  I am running outlook xp on the client
side.  I would suggest that if you use exchange you defiantly get your win2k
server with active directory running right. Also if you run exchange or
lotus notes you need to have a server dedicated to running it and only
exchange or notes.  That's where a lot of people mess up on NT and Win 2k
networks you should always have a dedicated server for each application you
are running (for example we have six servers here a fileserver, Exchange
server for public folders, exchange server for private folders "mailboxes",
a server running Domino, a terminal server, and a server running ISA server
for the firewall) when you try to get a win2k server or a nt server to do
two or more things no matter how small the network is you are usually
messing up (that's one of the areas linux/unix kill Microsoft).  But anyway
I would recommend going with a Exchange 2k it may be over kill in some areas
for you but I am sure your boss is like most bosses if you get this
accomplished for him/her they will always want it to do more.  You can go
with Lotus notes and domino if you want but Last time I checked notes is a
lot more expensive than exchange and Notes admins and developers are getting
to be a lot less in demand which is something to consider from a resume
standpoint. Anyway just my 2 cents.

Forrest Dickinson
Systems Administrator
Morgan Hunter Companies
7600 West 110th Street
Overland Park, Kansas 66210
Main:   (913) 491-3434
Direct: (913) 409-1230
Fax:     (913) 409-1232

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Penne [mailto:epenne at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:43 AM
To: olug at olug.org
Subject: Re: [olug] Groupware suggestions - Long

We've tried this and it doesn't seem to work.  This is part of the
circular discussion that I've had with my boss 3 times now. Each time
he go back to this and tries it again.  Each time I spend the next hour
and half troubleshooting why it doesn't work and explaining to him that
I can't get it to work.

This was the original idea though, but for some reason it just won't
work.  I've never found a reason for it not working.


PS If a good solution can be found (Win or Lin) there might be some
money involved to set it up and train me on it.

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