[olug] Wireless LAN

[Chad S. Lauritsen]

Thanks to all who replied. I knew I could get some good info out of you guys.
Thanks again!

On Fri, 28 Sep 2001 JWLUCAS at up.com wrote:

>
> Different people are going to have different opinions as to what is or is
> not available and I hope that the dialogue has been informative.  This is
> my last contribution to the information flow.  802.16 addresses a number of
> offerings which already exist from many vendors who provide fixed wireless
> broadband access. These implementations are primarily for point to point
> implementations . The cost can go from very inexpensive to high priced
> depending upon the vendor and the features and functions which are
> provided.  It is certainly possible to use 802.11 as a standard for access.
>
> However, in my opinion there is a difference between using a transport
> medium for your own personal access versus something that you are providing
> to someone else on a commercial basis.  We have a number of 802.11
> implementations which are used for LANs and we are in scramble mode
> attempting to find reasonable security augments for these LANs.  Although I
> don't recommend using this as a commercial access method, I can
> legitimately see why others may have a different opinion.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From:  Eric
> Subject:  Re: [olug] Wireless LAN
>
> http://wirelessman.org
>
> 802.16 is meant as a broadband connection like DSL or cable modems. The
> standard won't be finished until January 2002 at the earliest.  They
> have almost finished the MAC layer.  There are proprietary technologies
> that can do this type of thing but hte cost is very prohibitive.
> 802.16 is looking at 2 ranges of frequencies 2-11 GHz and 10-66 GHz.
> Why they overlap is beyond me right now.  802.11b is 11 Mbps at 2.4 GHz
> and 802.11a is 52 Mbps at 5 GHz.  I don't know what the proposed speeds
> are for 802.16.  They are trying to use the good parts of 802.11 in
> this standard though so the hardware can be quickly implemented and get
> to market.  I don't expect this to take off for another 3 years though
> since 802.11a is coming, unless security of the wireless infrastructure
> takes precendence or companies can start making a profit from
> broadband.
>
> Eric
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From:  Jerry
>
> I acknowledge the point that Eric makes and also need to provide a point of
> clarification.  Although I think of 802.11 as simply a mobile LAN, you are
> right  it can provide access to the Internet.  As far as 802.16 is
> concerned, it is my understanding that this simply is a collection of the
> fixed wireless technologies which are in place today and have been provided
> for years so there are commercial products that do exist at various
> frequencies.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From:
> Eric Penne
>
> To:   olug at bstc.net
> Subject:  Re: [olug] Wireless LAN
>
> I disagree that 802.11b is not the solution for high speed access.
> 802.11 is the only wireless standard that is feasible right now and for
> the next 2 years.  802.16 is still in draft and there is no hardware
> available.  802.11 is also supported in linux, has hardware available,
> and is getting cheaper.
>
> There are some security and freeloading problems but nothing that can't
> be overcome with some already available tools in linux.
>
> Eric Penne
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Jerry
>
>
> I would suggest that wireless LANs such as those that meet the 802.11b
> or a
> standard can connect building or a campus but are not the solution for
> high
> speed access. That is what the 802.16 or fixed wireless access is
> about. If
> companies or landlords etc. in the area have sufficient interest in
> such
> solutions this is not a difficult thing to accomplish
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From:  Eric
> Subject:  Re: [olug] Wireless LAN
>
> http://wirelessman.org
>
> 802.16 is meant as a broadband connection like DSL or cable modems. The
> standard won't be finished until January 2002 at the earliest.  They
> have almost finished the MAC layer.  There are proprietary technologies
> that can do this type of thing but hte cost is very prohibitive.
> 802.16 is looking at 2 ranges of frequencies 2-11 GHz and 10-66 GHz.
> Why they overlap is beyond me right now.  802.11b is 11 Mbps at 2.4 GHz
> and 802.11a is 52 Mbps at 5 GHz.  I don't know what the proposed speeds
> are for 802.16.  They are trying to use the good parts of 802.11 in
> this standard though so the hardware can be quickly implemented and get
> to market.  I don't expect this to take off for another 3 years though
> since 802.11a is coming, unless security of the wireless infrastructure
> takes precendence or companies can start making a profit from
> broadband.
>
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From:  Jerry
>
> I would suggest that wireless LANs such as those that meet the 802.11b or a
> standard can connect building or a campus but are not the solution for high
> speed access. That is what the 802.16 or fixed wireless access is about. If
> companies or landlords etc. in the area have sufficient interest in such
> solutions this is not a difficult thing to accomplish
>
>
>
>
> "Chad S. Lauritsen" <csl at perfectionlearning.com> on 09/22/2001 07:55:24 PM
> Subject:  [olug] Wireless LAN
>
>
> Hi,
>
> A while back there were some threads regarding 802.11 wireless networking.
> I
> have never played with it, but I had a question maybe some of you could
> answer.
>
> Would it be possible for an apartment landlord to use it to provide
> high-speed
> internet to tenants? (To avoid retrofitting Cat-V in the walls.)
> Specifically, can it travel through the walls reliably
> enough to a central router connected via, say T1 access? Or does it really
> have
> to have a _visually_ non-obstructed line-of-sight?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
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Chad Lauritsen                          | 1000 N 2nd Ave
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