[olug] support costs. for Linux

[David Walker]

You're right Mike.  I was thinking of outgoing traffic as a small
outgoing request with a large incoming return traffic.  Thinking of
traffic in terms of outgoing and incoming requests usually yields the
reverse of thinking of it in terms of outgoing and incoming packets.

I'd suggest you host the web, email, etc servers on the T1 and the
on-campus web surfers, etc on the cable, if most of your traffic is
on-campus web surfers and such.

or, if the web servers are generating most of the traffic while serving
up pages, I'd recommend colocating the web servers in a facility with
higher bandwidth, and, <shameless_plug> if you need them to be secure
and redundant, contact me and my company will set you
up</shameless_plug>.

Also, assuming you are referring to clarksoncollege.edu here, verify
that your IIS server has not contracted a worm and started generating
traffic itself.

On Friday 05 October 2001 07:07 pm, you wrote:
> If he is looking to use Squid, is most of your traffic incoming?
> People looking up info and such.
> If you use the cable for the incoming usage and keep the T1 for necessary
> in and out business only use you would not possibly need Squid.
> My experience with cable is that you get 1 to 2 T1 of bandwidth inbound and
> only 256 to 512K outbound.
> I f you have fiber access you can get faster outbound.
> The standard cable is cheaper that most standard T1 pricing depending on
> the number of users.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Walker" <linux_user at grax.com>
> To: <olug at bstc.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [olug] support costs. for Linux
>
> > Is your traffic mostly outgoing?
> >
> > You might consider getting a cable modem or DSL to handle some or all of
> > the outgoing traffic and leave the T1 to handle the incoming traffic.
> >
> > On Thursday 04 October 2001 03:40 pm, Schmeits, Roger wrote:
> > > What are typical support costs for Linux servers???  I have a quote
> > > from Caldera for a 5 pack at $1650 or per server is $3130 per year. 
> > > SUSE is $400 per incident.  This will be for Apache, Squid, content
> > > filtering at the packet level, MRTG packages running on Redhat, SUSE or
> > > Solaris.  We
>
> run
>
> > > all Compaq machines and I am limited to these three operating systems.
> > >
> > > Would anyone like to expand on/share your experiences?  I have strong
> > > windows background and have been playing with Linux for about one year.
>
> I
>
> > > have installed most Linux distros in one degree or another.  Caldera
>
> seems
>
> > > to work as well as anything for us here.  I don't not feel comfortable
>
> just
>
> > > throwing a machine without a high degree of success.  I am not the
> > > brightest bulb in the room but I will not kill my career without some
>
> type
>
> > > of support system underneath me.  Hopefully within the next two years I
>
> can
>
> > > wean myself of any support contact but initially it is a necessity.  I
> > > already threw the idea at my boss and he seemed to be ok with my idea.
> > >
> > > Currently we have a T1 that is pretty well soaked during the day and am
> > > looking a SQUID to allieviate the problem.  Or at least knock the top
>
> 20%
>
> > > of the traffic through our ISP.  I have one Compq ML370 1G CPU with
> > > 500M ram. Plenty of disk space to boot.
> > >
> > > Any comments?
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > >

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