[olug-colo] The Legal Mumbo-Jumbo

Charles.Bird charles.bird at powerdnn.com
Sat Apr 4 22:57:34 EDT 2009

i vote non-profit.

I feel realistically confident about us existing as a non-profit and still
staying progressive in terms of acquiring new hardware, money, bandwidth and
evolution of the org. One example, I bet I could get PTP Microwave
equipement for free as a nonprofit, I also think I could score a badass
switch or two down the road..likley a brandnew Juniper, also for free,
possibilites exist that dont exist for a for profit, such as support from
multiple major businesses in this area and specific vendors.

it would be advantageous to some of our members for this be a nonprofit in
the sense of tax deductible donations both actual money, and equipment.

Money can come from more places with the nonprofit as opposed to a company
thats doing hosting. Hosting is a tough biz unless one finds a real big
niche. In PowerDNN's case, they have been hosting an opensource application,
and doing it very well for years. Very few companies understand the
application as well as they do, they even wrote their own caching provider
for DNN and it works alot better than the original. If it wasnt for all of
that, then there is no way they could exist since their bandwidth and colo
is higher cost than the big city providers that have something like 30Gb
backhaul to the POPs

I think as it could be a nonprofit, then the customers(members) could then
in turn have the ability to start their own operations under it as a service
provider/hosting company.

I know there is alot of desire to go for profit and I am not opposing it to
be a dickhead :) I sincerily think it really should be non-profit.
I'll donate more time if its going to be a pain in the ass to go this route.
I can do alot of grant writing, labor, footwork, etc


On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Dan Clough <dclough at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds great, thanks to everyone who's volunteering for on-call.
> And back on the subject of Legal mumbo jumbo, we need to do two things:
> a) Find a lawyer who's willing to help us either for free or at
> severely reduced cost (Any lawyers on the OLUG list?)
> b) Figure out whether we want a corporation or an LLC.  I have two
> sets of Articles, one for nonprofit organization and one for a generic
> LLC.
> I'll assume that everyone who listed their name and address wants to
> be either a manager or a Director, depending on which entity we
> choose.
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Dave Thacker <dthacker9 at cox.net> wrote:
> > On Friday 03 April 2009 18:05:01 charles.bird at powerdnn.com wrote:
> >> I can also maintain oncall status
> >> ------Original Message------
> >
> > I can do oncall too.  I'm already 24x7 for the "real job"  I've cleared
> my
> > potential uses of the company Blackberry with the corporate powers that
> be.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >> From: Dan Clough
> >> Sender: olug-colo-bounces at olug.org
> >> To: olug-colo at olug.org
> >> ReplyTo: Olug Community colo project
> >> Subject: [olug-colo] The Legal Mumbo-Jumbo
> >> Sent: Apr 3, 2009 5:35 PM
> >>
> >> Okay, I have a template Articles of Organization in hand (well, on
> >> disk) and can fill them out right now.
> >>
> >> A few things to clarify:
> >>
> >> The legal name of the operation will be Omaha Internet Exchange, LLC
> >> with a secondary trade name, OIX LLC.  Nice similarity to KCIX, LLC
> >> down in Kansas City.
> >>
> >> Where will the registered office be?
> >>
> >> Who will our registered agent be?
> >>
> >> Do we want management via managers or should all members be equal
> managers?
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